DonkeysBazooka 2010-02-01 00:16:47

not that i'm arguing with most of what you said, but he didn't come up with the name unobtainium. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtain ium</a>

Josh-B 2010-02-01 00:16:48

It was alright.

QuEEFMaN 2010-02-01 00:23:45

I really wanted that movie to be good. Luckily I didn't go into the theater with high hopes.

mrnihil 2010-02-01 00:42:32

i agree with you on everything except unobtanium, which has precedent:

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtani um</a>

avatar sounded so great, i decided not to see it. 3 hours of good effects is probably 2 hours too many.

CantflyRyan 2010-02-01 00:57:12

I had to sit through the movie three times (don't ask). By the third time I was basically laughing at all of the plotholes and over-the-top acting.

ThePortalGuru 2010-02-01 00:58:06

Yeah, it was a p cliche plotline, I'm 1/2 2 a with M here on that 1.

Zyphonee 2010-02-01 01:05:02

Chip fucking Hazard

savage011 2010-02-01 01:26:14

did you see it in 3D? cuz that would probably distract you from the plot even more.

skarai 2010-02-01 01:29:46

I actually watched that movie. Fuck.

zappawadda 2010-02-01 01:30:21

Yes but where else can he show his coke-fueled hallucinations?

TheBoogley 2010-02-01 01:34:54

Unobtainium is a real term used in engineering for an imaginary super material they use in thought experiments. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtain ium</a>

The Loverley Bones was a steaming turd of a film, with a gigantic sink hole of a plot.

Avatar was a classic late 70's or 80's action flick which people are expecting too much from, and this whole pocahontas thing is just the tip of the iceburg, this plot structure goes right back through history, it's just the classic Joseph Campbell "Hero's Journey" twelve point plot that everyone always used and still uses.

Do you know his book, The Hero With a Thousand Faces? Read it then you too can create predictable stories that somehow still manage to entertain most of the world.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_with_a_Thousand_Faces">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero _with_a_Thousand_Faces</a>

Chakra-X 2010-02-01 01:36:32

Yeah I read that Avatar technically is not the highest grossing film. Even with inflation, the IMAX and 3D prices are higher than normal tickets. But still, people are decided to fork over that much, so that counts for something...

I bet a lot of film critics agree with you, except they have a smug, nitpicky, condescending, and slightly rude flair in their analysis, and while yeah given the textbook standards of "good cinema" Avatar is not at the top of the list, but I find that such standards become irrevelant when it comes to actually enjoying a movie in present day (except everything by the guys who made "Date Movie"). I don't think Avatar was trying to be Citizen Kane and I don't think every movie needs to aim for that. I personally enjoyed Avatar for what it was and what it aimed to be.

BeamShank 2010-02-01 01:44:43

I feel he same way about Avatar, 'cept I didn't go to see it. Whether you love it or hate it, i you go to see it James Cameron makes another buck off of it. Screw you and your movie James. Also I saw lighthouse girl on your portfolio website, It's really impressive.

moo5000 2010-02-01 01:45:28

I seen it about 2 times, It was pretty good. I don't understand why people are trying to find some reason not to like it or see it, I understand people put alot of thought into it..but just one more problem..its a freaking movie. Its just used for enjoyment, not for logic. All it is good action and flashy graphics, why get so caught up in the storyline? >_>

corruptedtodeath 2010-02-01 01:56:05

avatar started in 1994 a year before Pocahontas was released in theaters and the movie Disney released before that lion king in 1994. avatar was set to begin work after Cameron's titanic in 1997. but according to Cameron the technology for what he wanted did not exist yet so it was put off. this is directly off the Wikipedia page.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%
282009_film%29</a>

the films are very similar but the actuality is very different as the majority of the movie is focused on Jake learning the culture and becoming a part of the navi. which does not happen in Pocahontas at least not to the extent in avatar.

for some reason i doubt this will change your opinion, but its annoying that you would skip over everything that makes the two movies different just to show the similarities.

blackduckie 2010-02-01 02:02:05

LOL, people actually got depressed watching it? XD

I didn't mind the movie myself; the plot wasn't that original, but it wasn't necessarily bad. Some bits of the story could have been vastly improved though, not to mention that hideous "Papyrus" subtitle font.

I personally think visuals as stunning as that should be saved for video games, so people can actually explore and experience the world themselves, instead of having to sit through practically the same thing they've seen before, just shinier.

Oh, and I just remembered. THERE ARE GOING TO BE SEQUELS. One of the things I liked more about that movie was that it had a satisfying ending, but no, they have to ruin that too. And not just one sequel, either. Apparently James Cameron wants to make it into a fucking TRILOGY.

Skenvo 2010-02-01 02:16:31

I really do agree with you there. It was real pretty, but i dont go see a movie just to see something nice. I like movies with a story, and the story of this one was really predictable.

Zyphonee 2010-02-01 02:33:34

"no, most film critics hailed it as one of the best movies of all time. i don't feel like visiting rotten tomatoes ever again."

Now that's just pathetic. Avatar is a good movie at the most.

And what I meant by making such an empty post as "Chip fucking Hazard" is that the Colonel was THE most cliché character I have ever seen in movie history. He looks just like Chip Hazard from Little Soldiers and has the exact same personality as the Sergeant from Atlantis. Come to think about it, the movie is a mixture between Dances with the Wolves and Atlantis, and I mean, leaving no detail behind, it's the exact same thing.

Kajenx 2010-02-01 02:48:06

While, on principle, I hate to agree with you, in this case I do wholeheartedly. The only thing amazing about Avatar was the CG, and in that respect I stand and applaud.

The only reason to be depressed about the movie, though, is how silly and contrived the plot was, and how flat most of the supporting characters were. I wouldn't say it "induced neon-blue migraines" (though that CNN article might) and James Cameron can make a good popcorn flick, but that hardly puts it above Transformers and The Fast and the Furious (though that movie, suprisingly, had a story worth its salt). It's worth seeing on the big screen, but it isn't something to be remembered.

Kajenx 2010-02-01 02:53:45

Also, RT seemed to say exactly what you did...

"It might be more impressive on a technical level than as a piece of storytelling, but Avatar reaffirms James Cameron's singular gift for imaginative, absorbing filmmaking."