Meh. And where did we get with all this? Nowhere.
It's only a matter of distinguishing between what are you working for, whether it is just messing around, popularity/commerce, or art itself.
This might sound stupid, but I suggest you read a translation of Nikolai Gogol's "Portrait". Try it, out of simple curiosity.
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True... This epidemic makes me want to scream out
"GOD DAMMIT NEWGROUNDS!!!"
I always like the variety. I hate seeing the same old jokes being used. Sure old jokes were great but not great enough where everyone has to use that same joke over and over.
Back then I remembered everything not being about overly used innuendo's or a video game but the jokes were created through situations with actual thought.
It always didnt have to be a joke either it could be the creativity of someone and
basically a glimpse through the artists mind.
Heya! I'm not sure if anyone else has said this, and if they have then sorry about repeating your part but, frankly I can't really be bothered reading through all those posts so yeah, here goes! Animation is good; what people do to it can effect the quality, if its a poor excuse for a parody then people wil love it, because it's in their nature to follow the crowd and say 'OMG I WANTS MOARS!' and yeah I know Mastersword was being sarcastic in his comment.
Now where was I going with this again......
Oh yeah,
BUT, if an animation is a piss poor excuse for a parody then what goes around comes around and trends will change, people will want an actual story, or some form of artwork, or a sense of humour beyond ultimately crude. Then it is the true animations time to shine, a new age of peace and prosperity shall reign, and wolfgang hitler will get kicked of the portal, so I got a vendetta against him, meh, he deserves it.
Anyways, Patience is a virtue, the time of high quality animation shall come again and so a golden age shall be on newgrounds....oh wait, did I say that bit before?
And now for something completely different: Huggles for ritl! 'Cause everyone else around here is being all serious! =D
Which reminds me, whats your opinion or Monty Python, seeing as they really were the origional cause of all parodies if your to young to remember anything funnier from further back.
Hammerypart says: Good luck to ya! The masses may be in faout of the other but they don't have the vocabulary or the patience to actually understand your post so no harm done. And you'll always have a fanbase, yeah? Cya 'round!
parody has been around a lot longer than monty python, and parody through film was around before them as well. but i'm sure they were a large catalyst of it. i haven't seen a whole lot of their material so i can't comment much on it.
Frankly, I do not understand why you wrote all this. Why do you care if your flash is sever positions lower than one of Egoraptor's? Does the work you upload here, at Newgrounds, put food on your plate? Yes/no?
And if not, why do you still care? Just shut up and create artpieces, dammit! REAL artists do not crave recognition, it's the process that matters. And the outcome is irrelevant, because the aritst himself knows full well if his creation is a masterpiece, or any flaws it might possess.
i don't care about my cartoons being positions below egoraptor's. read some of the responses, you don't understand what this is about.
I don't know what I think about this actually. I mean, his animations entertain me and all, but I hate coming to school and hear just: OMG HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW AWESOME MOVIE!? It's sort of tragic actually (and I go to highschool). I like a good laugh, and I do get one from those movies. But sadly it's far to overrated. Also, don't get me wrong. I don't think it's the most hilarious thing on NG.
Myself, I really don't animate "What everyone wants to see" I animate "What I think people wants to see". I try to.. straighten peoples likes i guess, I don't know. Something like that.
Anyways. What do you want people to do? It's not like we can delete all fan art and all fan artists. Even though I'd like to.
"Don't make unoriginal animations" I'm guessing?
i wish animators would animate their own ideas. i would imagine (hopefully) that every animator out there has their own chraracters and their own stories somewhere inside of their head. parody is great, but when it's all you do it gets really numbing. especially with video games, they're so predictable.
i like what you are saying here. i miss alot of the higher quality animations that used to flow in more often rather than the shit spam we get buy the truck load every day now. i do find some of the half-assed animations funny but i do enjoy a well animated serious short more often. creativity seems to have died here.
there are some cartoons out there where their half-assed nature may serve the comedy well, but i think if you have the skill to go beyond that, you should.
Hey, RTIL dude ur flashes rock, but so do Egoraptor's to put it blankly I love all funny flashes, that's why my favorite flashes that you did were The Grinch (that was really funny), Say Something, Trix Rabbit, Seats (that was funny because Logo doesn't really do a WHOLE lot for his Flashes, just movieclips and tweens, I still like Logo though but this parody was funny) Flash Comedy Extravaganza (this Flash is my favorite of yours), and of course Pallid FIngers. I like all of these because they are al so random, and that's what kids are "into" these days, try making a Flash of an old lady getting hit by a car and her rocker flying through the air and hitting her in the face. Seriuosly with our kids attention spans, instant 5. Our generation laughs at pain and random pop-ups, so that's why we like Egoraptor so much, but seriously people need to stop making Awesome videos like Egoraptor, one is okay but there are like 57 and that's not cool. (I do like Metal Gear Awesome 1 and 2 but the other awesome videos are really dumb[except for Awesome's Creed because I can relate and stuff] I honestly don't know why anyone likes any of the other awesome video's.)
yeah, egoraptor stuff is starting to bug me. awesome just isn't awesome anymore.
Nice lol, i love egoraptor's humor, but to see it mass marketed in like a movie theater well its true people would be baffled at what they see (and not in a good way), i love your animations, Freetown looks great so I'm not one of those people that don't like your style of animation, i love looking for other animations in newgrounds not just the same ones every single day, and although it is a VG parody dude so what, it's his type of comedy of random VG parodies that make no sense, and you gotta take in mind the majority of the internet community are people looking for funny stuff , not like me which i look for stuff that well intrigues me, or makes me laugh both really. I respect your point of view, and i do believe some of it is true, and that originality in flash animation is disappearing, basically because most flash animators just make spoofs of something or even spoofs of spoofs, which usually suck. I hope people get this message and might see other things than just unoriginal cartoons, but to see things like <a href="http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/77744">http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view /77744</a>, its really good and check the date, its awesome, lol.
Luis really did say it best. And reading what you said back just shows that you are WAY to uptight. You say his toons are bad, his voice acting sucks, and his series is complete shit. If your seriously gunna sit there and spit THAT kind of garbage and mean every single word then I believe you have a problem. Do you just not know how to laugh or what? jeez..
yes, i am super serious all the time and nothing makes me laugh.
Hmm, rtil is trying to establish a fascist dictatorship on newgrounds. you may only produce what he wants you to produce, if rtil doesn't like it then get it OFF OUR SCREENS!!! rtil has a more important opinion than anyone else on this site!!! He is level 27!! HELLO PEOPLE
this is a great news post because you're getting your millions of replies and you always have a little quip and won't listen to reason, let alone give a substantial reply to anyone.
that being said, what is it EXACTLY that you want, written in one sentence preferably? you seem to be fighting this invisible battle for the fate of animation? what exactly are you doing, other than causing a stir on your userpage?
yes tommy i feel the hate flowing within you
hey, you're the one who removed me from your facebook friends :( :( :(
why would i want to have anything to do with someone who tries to backstab people they disagree with? speaking of that, it isn't working.
That's what people want, we animators can't change that. And frankly, i don't care if that is what people want or not. I hate those type of fads too, so I choose to make my own original content in favor of silly video game parodies. Maybe it won't get appreciated by the mass crowd, but that is never something i aimed for. I don't really see the need to be concerned about this, because it's not something anyone can change.
Besides, Newgrounds is a website mostly for the youngsters, what else do you expect?
i dunno about it being mostly for young kids, there's a lot of adult content they probably shouldn't be watching here. but it does definitely attract them once they realize the internet is their escape from their parents attempt at controlling what goes in their minds. i dunno, like i said i've spoken to a lot of animators who get extremely disenchanted when they feel like their hard work isn't appreciated. daily awards and momentary blips on the frontpage may not be important in the real world, but to an animator like that it could be the spark that gets their passion going into a real five alarm fire.
absp;utaly true, i just watch to praise and nothing more.
speaking of "isn't working"...
:-I
I NOW DECLARE WAR ON ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER MADE A PARODY, INCLUDING MYSELF
rtil you are wrong oh YOU ARE SO WRONG RTIL
This isn't about Egoraptor's flashes is it? It's about something by far deeper. As a rich psychologist I can tell what it's about, it's about your inner hate and love for Egoraptor. Egoraptor is a person very similar to yourself and you love yourself but you hate Egoraptor's flashes. These two feelings crash and release a whole new feeling. This feeling is called "The Need To Write On Newgrounds Feeling", yes, every word starts with a capital letter don't ask me why I didn't make that up!
It's all deep in your head, probably from your childhood. You must've played Dino Crises for Dreamcast when you were young, there was a raptor that scared the hell out of you and you said "Fucking raptor, you're an ego for eating my fucking friend just because you were hungry. I hate you Egoraptor". You might've forgotten about that now but it still is deep in your brain and telling you to dislike Egoraptor.
One time, not too long ago you made a flash about 2 people, racing down pipes and skating through cities. The backgrounds were very well drawn but this has nothing to do with the actual comment.
Rtil, since you are so wrong without even realizing it, I will get a bunch of people like my closest buddies TommyLM and Egoraptor and make AWESOME flashes to bash you. My flash will be called rtil not so AWESOME and it will be you saying "Hello, my name is Ryan Miller. My internet name is rtil.. that means really tortured in life.. that describes my real life situation very well but on the internet! On the internet I am a very respected person and I have a lot of friends.. but I don't have any real friends in real life.. would you.. would you like to be my real life buddy? PLEASE OH PLEASE I BEG YOU CALL ME!!". This flash will drain your will to live and you will get worse at school and stop drawing. You will eventually cut off your right hand out of depression. You won't turn emo because you will think you're something better than them. That's why you will cut off your hand instead of cutting your wrists.
You will join 4chan and Scientology. You will be thrown out of 4chan afterwards for joining Scientology. God is not on your side anymore, you will be very unlucky and the only shreds of happiness you can get cost 40$ for 5grams. You will start drinking and then you will eventually kill the person who's coming to get the rent for your apartment. You tell him you are broke but he won't listen, he threats to throw you out and you, under influences of drugs and alcohol, kill him. You take an apple and try to stab him with it, you try it so hard that it actually works. He died a painful dead.
You will soon afterwards realize what you did, you run out, into your car and drive. You will just drive, you don't know where to. A gas station? You stop and take a peak into the window. You see alcohol. Lots of alcohol. Still having the apple with you, you are deciding to rob the gas station. "Raise your hands fucker, I've got a fucking apple", you will say. "Give me some of this fucking booze n****r!" you add. "Please, I have family. Take what you want just don't stab me with the bloody apple, PLEASE!" the cashier says. You take a lot of alcohol and leave. On the way out, you put on a cigar you also stole. You drop the cigar and the alcohol, the alcohol catches on fire and you start to burn because you have absinthe spilled all over your clothes. You run to the petrol pump and try to put the fire out with petrol, you didn't think about how inflammable petrol is. You burn even more but not for long, the fire reaches into the petrol pump, under the ground and into the enormous petrol tank. The whole station blows up.
You cause a good 400,000$ of damage. Gorge Bush- who is still president by that time because if you don't change your way of acting, you will end up like that real soon- will blame it on terrorists and will go into active war with Afghanistan. That way, there will be no elections for 4 more years and America will still be run by George Bush, just because of your egoism.. egoism, as I said before, you are similar to ego, was I just talking about the name? Maybe, it's up to you to decide that!
Additional to the 400,000$ damage you caused, there will be about 2,000$ to clean up the place. Your guts are all over the place, it takes years to clean that up.
The person you took down with you, the cashier, had a family. His wife had cancer and couldn't work, now they will die a horrible death because of your ignorance.
The person who cleaned up your guts smelled so bad for weeks that his wife left him and he committed suicide.
You rtil, will cause a lot of trouble if you don't change your way of acting. Think about it. Take it to your heart. Do you really want this to happen?
ps. I just analyzed your psychology very precise. That will be 2,000$, thank you!
i'll write out the check in the morning, thank you
lalalalala drama i dont care im just takin the piss
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Yeah, you're right...it's a trend, and nothing more. People like to see video games made fun of, and for some reason it wins awards. I think it's pretty tasteless, and what a lot of people don't realize is that people like you (good animation and drawing) and TheSwain, Adam Philips, Granfaloon, etc., what guys like that do is art. At its core, Flash animation is an art, when you take it seriously, and it's a complex, hard art. What Egoraptor does is not art, it's an animated sound track.
There's not much skill, nor creation or even care, and I don't think that things like that should be regarded as highly as they are. It's all about parodies, which are easy as hell to make. It's hard coming up with original content, so making fun of something original takes it's place.
I do ENJOY the movies, but not as much as everyone else seems to, and I can think of so many things which could go in the top 50/100 in place of the awesome movies.